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We are selling our Thule Evolution 1200 (974) cargo box. It is an awesome cargo box! Unfortunately with the installation of our RTT Compatible BajaRack, the Thule is too long to fit. The length is awesome especially if you want to fit skis or longer items.

We bought this as a floor sample unit from a local store going out of business about 6 years ago. It got regular summer use until this year. Two of the quicksnap mounts are missing their "safety" but this has not been a problem for us in the time we've owned it. It has always been stored in the garage and is in great shape.

Comes with locks (2) and keys (2)

We paid around $350 originally. We're asking $200. May be willing to trade or partial trade for smaller cargo box.

Details (from another website):
The 674 Thule Evolution 1200 Cargo Box is the perfect carrier for snowboards, skis, poles, paddles, camping gear or anything else that can crowd your car. Offers 12 cubic feet of cargo space in a narrow-width design allowing plenty of room for other gear carrier attachments. The Thule Evolution cargo boxes have a sleek metallic finish molded into a unique aerodynamic shape. Available in metallic-silver color only. This cargo roof box connects directly to all styles of Thule load bars, Yakima round cross bars and virtually all factory roof rack crossbars.

  • Enough room for snowboards, skis, kayak paddles & gear, luggage, camping equipment etc.
  • Fits 5-6 pairs of skis.
  • Narrow-width design allowing plenty of room for other gear carrier attachments.
  • Patented dual-side opening allows you to access gear from either side of your car.
  • Aerodynamic shape reduces wind drag and noise.
  • Quick snap hardware for easy on/off attachment to roof racks.
  • High impact and UV resistant ABS construction.
  • Convenient single key access with central locking position (lock and keys included).
  • Thule Evolution 1200 Cargo Box fits all Thule load bars, Yakima round cross bars and most car factory racks.
  • Available in Metallic Silver color.
  • A variety of accessories available for use with this cargo roof box (sold separately; see below).
  • 12 cubic feet. 90.1in(l) x 23.8in(w) x 14.7in(h).
  • Thule Lifetime Warranty!


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You just wanted to show off your great photos and used the box as an excuse, right? J/K :)

Folks, that is a good deal for the box. Maybe I should buy it now that I don't have a catering trailer. mmmm...

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Kevin,

Are you still looking to unload that box? My wife and I are interested.

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Kevin,

Are you still looking to unload that box? My wife and I are interested.


Thanks for your interest. Sorry though. Was contacted by an interested party just before you posted.


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Intro:

So I bought a rare 95 Disco 5spd and love it. As a new member I know Land Rovers well before this purchase. I have done a lot of work on these inside and out. Thanks mostly to Antonio. Two Range Rovers Classics and a P38 later I meet good old Jarell (aka Disco painter). Fabbed up everything and now I got one myself.
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So back to my problem....

This is the best part. I drive this thing everyday. To work and back. I smell coolant and don't see a leak. I finally decide it's a Land Rover and it needs a check. I pop the "Bonnet" and check the fluids. Of course it's all low. No coolant, one quart low on oil and maybe a pint low on power steering. I top off and find that I need about 1 gallon of coolant... Not good! I drive it around and notice it lacks top end power. I look at the tail pipe as I drive an see white smoke out the tail pipe. Really not good!

The question:

Anyone do a head job at home? If so I need pointers. Parts, prices, deals for broke guys about to get married in Feb??? Should I drive it, fix it, or blow it up? I'm kinda feed up with motor issues after my 4runner (long story in itself).

Edited by Pedram, 21 December 2011 - 12:08 AM.


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Call Will Tillery to get a head gasket kit, and bolts. See if you can find a copy of In Search of the Experience dvd. In the extras section John Gadd and Elias C. show an overview of doing the h/g job.

Don't blow it up! As long as you don't overheat the engine you should be fine. Sometimes the heads are warped, so you may want to have them checked to see if they need to be re-surfaced.

But, before doing any of that, try tightening the bolts, sometimes that's all that's needed. Do you hear a waterfall sound behind the dash, or get white steam coming out of the vents? That's a good indicator the h/g are failing. It might be a good idea to replace the t-stat, and any old hoses while you have everything apart.

Good luck!

edit: Do you have a copy of the RAVE manual? There are places online to download it. It's the electronic version of the workshop manual. If you can't get it to work, or will be at the meetup on Saturday, I could burn you a copy on disc.

Edited by Disco2Guy, 15 December 2011 - 02:28 PM.

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Okay thanks Brenton. Good info. And I do get that annoying water noise. I didn't think that had anything to do with my motor. I thought that was the gears. Only because the noise was made during movements. No smoke from the vents though. Just from the engine bay. Last time I drive it last night it smoked really bad after I parked it and then it sounded like a leak occured. To much pressure? I guess it needs a head job soon. So far no over heating.


More questions...

Do I need new head bolts? And where do I get those. I found a local place that has http://www.autoparts...L/032-2992.html this head set for the same price. Local pick up in stock. But no head bolts.


I have had Rod at Besa Auto replace my thermostat, radiator, fan clutch assembly, lower hose and some new coolant a while back. I mean about two months ago. I was under the impression that some one had recently done a head job before since it was pretty new looking. ????

I don't know what the deal is with this thing.

I have done some looking and keep hearing about this "Rave". What is it and where do I get it? How do I look for it?

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Yes you'll definitely need new head bolts. There is a specific sequence to torque them down tight. They actually stretch and because of that are a one time use part.

Try this kit from AB, it contains everything you'll need, including the head bolts.

http://www.roverpart.../STC4082HBK.cfm

Try this link for the RAVE manual. It's a little different than the version I got a while back, but looks like it will work. Just save the pdf, and open it in Acrobat Reader. It takes some getting used to how it's laid out. For example I wanted to find how to replace the serp belt. It's under Starting and Charging, and it's called an auxillary belt drive, so search wasn't finding it for me when I typed serpentine belt.
http://www.landrover...shop_Manual.pdf

edit: I've talked with Tony and Frank at Cerrone's about head gaskets before. They spray a light copper coating on the gaskets before installation. I assume it's for better sealing properties, but I don't know much else about that process. You can also search DiscoWeb.org. There's a ton of info on that site too.

Edited by Disco2Guy, 15 December 2011 - 03:34 PM.

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Yes you'll definitely need new head bolts. There is a specific sequence to torque them down tight. They actually stretch and because of that are a one time use part.

Try this kit from AB, it contains everything you'll need, including the head bolts.

http://www.roverpart.../STC4082HBK.cfm

Try this link for the RAVE manual. It's a little different than the version I got a while back, but looks like it will work. Just save the pdf, and open it in Acrobat Reader. It takes some getting used to how it's laid out. For example I wanted to find how to replace the serp belt. It's under Starting and Charging, and it's called an auxillary belt drive, so search wasn't finding it for me when I typed serpentine belt.
http://www.landrover...shop_Manual.pdf

edit: I've talked with Tony and Frank at Cerrone's about head gaskets before. They spray a light copper coating on the gaskets before installation. I assume it's for better sealing properties, but I don't know much else about that process. You can also search DiscoWeb.org. There's a ton of info on that site too.


Nice work buddy! Thank you. Great stuff here. I'll keep you posted.

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I also would endorse the In Search of the Experience DVD by Elias. It is a great overall LR DVD and in the 'Bonus Features' they walk through doing a headgasket on a disco. They talk about the tools you need and go through many of the steps. It will help ease your fears of tackling it yourself.


http://insearchofthe...om/ordernow.htm

It is well worth the $15 especially if you haven't done the job before yourself.

Don't toss the Disco. Fix it!

I looked at a 95 5-spd just like yours a few years ago, cloth seats, etc, but the interior was kinda beat up. The 5-speed seemed to have so much more torque than the slushbox.
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Welcome Pedram. Finally, you got yourself a Land Rover (after spending lots of time w/other people's Land Rovers). It's meant to be. Congrats.

I have a copy of In Search of.... Are you planning to be at the Meet/Greet @ Catahoula this Satursday? If yes, I can bring it. If not, PM your address and I can mail it/let you borrow it.

Ditto on the link Brenton provided for the complete AB Head Gaskets (HG) and Head bolts. That local company you pointed out sells HG w/o bolts sells it for about $144. Head Bolts are about $80. So for AB kit that comes with HG and bolts for $195, better deal.

Also I have a $220 credit from AB; ordered a new Mass Airflow Sensor for my 04 DII and they sent me the one for 99-02 (wrong part); returned it since and bought one from another source; so I have a $220 credit from AB. Let me know if you want to barter that credit for helping me build a tire carrier on my RRC. I already have the Safarigard (SG) rear bumper w/the holes drilled for the tire carrier but SG is now defunct and tire carrier no longer avail. Let's talk.

Nice choice of color by the way, Expo white Disco!

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I was busy Saturday morning with wedding plans. Sorry mY internet is funny these days. I can't use my computer after shuting down... New problem... don't worry.

So I might start taking in work from you since I do need the money now. I just can't decate to much time on builds before the wedding. I would love to get more projects done. I like building. As you already know. If you want to set up some time let me know. I don't want to let the Disco dance alone for to long. It might not want to tango with me anymore. Now I'm back down to one running truck. The numbers are adding up. I guess 2 out of 3 aint to bad. I still got wheels for now.

You got pictures of your rig? Send them over.

I had no choice on what color I got on a used 5 spd Disco. I just wanted a stick. If it were an automatice I would of kept it Toyota. Actually I was even looking for something not seen out much on the trails. I would of built all the nessisary armor for it anyway. Custom!!! That's how I roll.

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Welcome Pedram. Finally, you got yourself a Land Rover (after spending lots of time w/other people's Land Rovers). It's meant to be. Congrats.

I have a copy of In Search of.... Are you planning to be at the Meet/Greet @ Catahoula this Satursday? If yes, I can bring it. If not, PM your address and I can mail it/let you borrow it.

Ditto on the link Brenton provided for the complete AB Head Gaskets (HG) and Head bolts. That local company you pointed out sells HG w/o bolts sells it for about $144. Head Bolts are about $80. So for AB kit that comes with HG and bolts for $195, better deal.

Also I have a $220 credit from AB; ordered a new Mass Airflow Sensor for my 04 DII and they sent me the one for 99-02 (wrong part); returned it since and bought one from another source; so I have a $220 credit from AB. Let me know if you want to barter that credit for helping me build a tire carrier on my RRC. I already have the Safarigard (SG) rear bumper w/the holes drilled for the tire carrier but SG is now defunct and tire carrier no longer avail. Let's talk.

Nice choice of color by the way, Expo white Disco!



I might take you up on this offer soon Ron. I want to get my Disco dancing again. Are you going to be at Mexxis on 3/31? Dan if you see this post as well I need some help. Know if I need my heads resurfaced?

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I might take you up on this offer soon Ron. I want to get my Disco dancing again. Are you going to be at Mexxis on 3/31?


You got it. I will bring it to Mexxis on 03/31; in return, let me know when you are going to change the HG; like to help; would like to learn also. C yah!

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Yes good plan. I might do a Land Rover Group Head Gasket Day.

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I'd be down for that!

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Yes good plan. I might do a Land Rover Group Head Gasket Day.


I don't want to see another head gasket for a long while .... done two in 3 months (different vehicles) and hate it more each time. Just don't use stretch bolts ....

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Yes good plan. I might do a Land Rover Group Head Gasket Day.


Sounds like a plan. Setup this event and people will come....

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Just be sure to evacuate any form of liquid in the head bolt holes in the block. There is not much room at the end of the bore when you install the head bolt, and any liquid will "hydraulic" on you as you compress it by torquing the head bolt, resulting in hairline fractures in the block that simulate a "dropped liner". After all the hard work, and inventing new "encouragement" words in doing a head gasket job, you do not want to expand your vocabulary on a "slipped liner" incident.

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Give this thread a read through.

http://discoweb.org/...ead.php?t=72917

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