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Hey all,

I am in need of some transport of some rover parts from the roverdude's place in fullerton northward. I am in sacramento so anywhere close would be great. I was hoping someone would be making a trip soon and wouldn't mind hauling some larger parts for a few $. Jonathan, aka The Chef, on these forums, has graciously donated a set of D2 seats to keep my wife's buns warm and my life more comfortable. I need to figure out how to get a full set of D2 seats, front and back, to norcal. I don't have any business in LA and wasn't planning on visiting any time soon. So if you're making the journey all the way or part of it, and want some of your fuel sponsored, maybe we can work something out. Let me know. Thanks in advance.

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I may be able to help you out if Chef can get the parts in towards LA. He does not exactly live IN LA you know.

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Might want to PM Discochef aka Enrique owner of Mexxis; he is in S. Cal this wknd and planning to drive up to the Bay Area tomorrow Sunday; see if he has room and willing take a few $.

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Awww stink. I didn't see this until just now. It looks like Mike might be able to help me out. What a guy!

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Awww...sorry, wish I'd seen this before I left. Was in LA this past Sunday.

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Thanks Mike. Seats made it up to NorCal on sunday night. It was a late night and early monday morning at work but now I have some work to do. Thanks for all who were willing to help.

Jason

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Glad to be able to assist Jason. And starting in Livermore at 5 am with the kids and finally getting to sleep at 1230 after coming home and getting the Disco ready for the wife...I understand that long day too!

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The front of my SD rack has had some rust issues over the past few years. It's hasn't been too bad, so I have just used a wire brush and Rustoleum rattle can. It's good for the short term, but I'm ready for a long term solution, and getting it re-powder coated wasn't something I wanted to do. After the powder coat is removed I'll prep it with Marine Clean (degreaser) and Prep & Ready (etches the steel), then cover it with POR-15, and finally a top coat of semi gloss Chassis Coat.

Currently, I've spent 2 full days just removing the powder coating using a drill and wire wheel, and there's at least another full day of grinding before it's all removed. It's a lot of work but it will be worth it in the end. The mounting brackets are sitting in a foil lasagne tray full of brake fluid. Tomorrow morning (when it's been 24 hrs.) I'll test scrape one with a screwdriver to see how easily the powder coat comes off. Once the powder coating is gone, they will be sprayed down with brake cleaner before prepping the bare metal. For the feet, I have 8 plastic mixing bowls (picked up at the paint store) that are a perfect fit. I'll place each foot of the rack in a bowl and fill them with brake fluid. This is about the only way I can think of to remove the powder coat without a media blaster.

Here are some pics of the process so far. Once the powder coat is removed the rest of the work should go pretty quickly.

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Great job Brenton so far.

The POR-15 I used to coat the flooring of my RRC is still holding, and no sign of rust (that was back in 2009).

POR-15 should hold up well on your SD rack.

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Thanks Ron.

The brake fluid didn't do much overnight. There was some minor wrinkling on one of the brackets (which was probably dirt), but the screw driver didn't remove anything. I'm going to Lowe's in search of aircraft stripper, and if they don't have it I'll see if City Paints carries the POR-15 paint remover tomorrow.

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...the screw driver didn't remove anything. I'm going to Lowe's in search of aircraft stripper.


Only if Jim can hook us all up again w/the laser demo... Remember that. Perfect for hard to remove, and/or access areas.

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Looks kike a good project, Brenton. It's tough getting that old powder coat off if the rust hasn't gotten under it yet. That laser that Jim's guys was great but I wound up breaking it with my rear ladder project. Hopefully the POR-15 will adhere better than the powder coat and will be a tough surface that lasts longer.

I'm sure what you are using is probably better but I've been using a process I learned from my roofer a few years ago. I wipe the bare metal surface with white distilled vinegar and let it dry. It removes finger grease and cleans the metal. Rustoleum sticks like glue after that treatment and it's cheap!

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Thanks Brian. I used the white vinegar technique on the Greg Davis bumper. It was kind of a rush job when painting and rust is coming through in certain spots. It may be next...

I'll post pics later, but I found Jasco, a paint and epoxy remover. It's a gel (much like snot) that sits for 15 minutes and makes the powder coat lift off. It took about 3 coats to really work, and even then some of the p/c remained almost untouched. It's back to the wire wheel, but where the Jasco was it's coming off easier.

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Here are the pics from today.

Here's my take on using the Jasco. It's still a pita, there's no way around it when removing a powder coat finish. Some sections just didn't seem to be affected by the Jasco where other places stripped it to the bare metal. Overall it took (on average) 2 coats to get through the p/c and another to get through the primer. There was a lot of scrubbing with a scour pad after the stuff did its magic. I would highly recommend using a power washer instead of the scour pad. My house has no water pressure so this part wasn't fun.

The Jasco was good to help weaken the powder coat, but in the end I'll need to go over everything with the wire wheel. Tomorrow should finally be the last day of the powder coat removal process.

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The rack is looking really good now. Some of the feet and corners still have powder coat, mainly because the drill has access issues. I'm going to try the angle grinder and a smaller wire wheel tomorrow for those areas. It should only be about a half day to get the feet and mounting brackets to bare steel. Here are some progress pics.

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Before you paint this, get some Denatured Alcoholhttp://www.lowes.com...oductId=3063669 with a terry cloth and get all the impurities out before applying paint. Then use a base coat for bare metal for the new paint to stick to better. That's how they paint cars at body shops.

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Also for rust removal use these...

http://www.lowes.com...oductId=1100899
http://www.lowes.com...heel&facetInfo=

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The rack is finally bare metal! Using the angle grinder worked great. The 8 brackets only have powder coat on the backside, the fronts and sides are clear. Tomorrow I'll get them finished and start to clean the metal, then get it ready for paint. I didn't get any pics since it was dark when I finished working.

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I'll take over from here! I'm going to send the 8 brackets over today after work to see if they will bead blast it for you. I'll pick up some 1 inch round tube as well to finish up the bent rear bars before you start to paint it. I'll try to finish those tonight.

It rained so hard that day I took the rack from you! Man I'm sorry it got pretty wet. I'll try to clean up the rust as much as possible before I give it back to you.

Edited by Pedram, 19 March 2012 - 07:25 AM.


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Thanks a ton Pedram! Also thanks for working on the shock towers. They might come in handy sooner than I thought. I'm getting a set of 3" RTE springs with only 5K miles on them. These were sold by the person who bought the 5" springs from Gadd.

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