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It's probably an "L" bracket that drops down from some main bolts and then bolts again below to the skid.


I will take a photo of the brackets. I just need some time to crawl under there and take a look ---- or take a nap.
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If thou have your tools and hardware and need a hand come by. I'll help you with that as well. I can't say it's easy but things like this are not hard either. It's all like a puzzle.

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If thou have your tools and hardware and need a hand come by. I'll help you with that as well. I can't say it's easy but things like this are not hard either. It's all like a puzzle.


Supposedly it's easier than the gas tank skid we did :-)
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According to who? Lol. While working on Dons truck I noticed that things don't line up well. Not my end.... Believe it or not, Don as my witness, the corners under the lights were of by a 1/4 and not centred to the tail gate of the truck from the frame. So I can't see land Rovers being exactly the same from truck to truck. Thank god I build on the truck and not on a jig that might lead to reworking the steel to fit later after its all done.

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According to who? Lol. While working on Dons truck I noticed that things don't line up well. Not my end.... Believe it or not, Don as my witness, the corners under the lights were of by a 1/4 and not centred to the tail gate of the truck from the frame. So I can't see land Rovers being exactly the same from truck to truck. Thank god I build on the truck and not on a jig that might lead to reworking the steel to fit later after its all done.


yes, that was a bit....disturbing. I may have to throw a tape on some other trucks to see how much different they are than mine.

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So here is some more updates before I get caught up today. I have a few minutes to spare today since I'm waiting for my friend from LA to show up for the classic bumper and tire carrier.

So back to Dons LR3...

I built the other support for the rear corners. Now I have two. And I did start to get some work last night so after this weekend I'll have more time to put in on this build.

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I then made some sides and cut them out to my templates I made from cardboard and steel. So I have this as a final result.

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If you noticed I have added a piece under the light to fill in the gap.

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Next thing is to clean up the corners and fill them later. I didn't finish that last night but I did get the cuts out of the way. And I did drill some holes for the spindles.


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Wow. Looking good.
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Excellent...

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Looking good. Now people can really start to see what the finished product is going to look like instead of just guessing from looking at the weird corner frames! Heck, I'm sure you'll have it done in a couple hours now! :)

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I'm going A.D.D. on this BIATCH...

So back to Antonio's P38. An update as I can at least say.

Here is what we have done since my welding days have been booked. Cutting of plastics and banging inner fenders for clearance for some monsters. We removed the front mud flaps but I don't recall taking pictures after so just go with it for now.

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That looks great! But it also looks like the front wheel is hitting just sitting there. How much room to you actually have with those big meats? (are those 33s?)

Don
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oohh..and in that last pic of Antonio's rig I just saw something else I'm going to need. One of those Land Rover hitch covers would look pretty sweet on mine I'm thinking....

Don
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Yeah this was the case before he came over to my storage but I did cut fenders and removed mud flaps and used my big hammer to persuade things out of the way. If you ask nicely, Antonio might sell you his hitch cover if you want it. Maybe. Considering that it's going to be used as a hitch.

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any recent pics of Dons bumper?

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Here are a couple from last week. I didn't get down to Pedram's place this week but he did do some more work on it since these were taken.

Here's a shot of the underside showing how the hitch fits:
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And one of the nearly complete bumper on the bench (still needs some fine tuning)
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And on the truck:
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There's been a lot of finish welding and grinding since these were taken. Then we weren't happy with some of the gaps around the tailgate so we cut and bent some sections to tweek them, which means re-welding and yet more grinding. But it's getting closer - it might even be finished by next weekend. (maybe)

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The above pics are actually not in sequence - the shot of the full bumper on the bench is the most recent one I have - you can see a lot more finish welding has been done on it.

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While I was at Overland Expo I took a good look at the Kaymar rear bumper installed on the back of the Overland Journal LR4. I wasn't really impressed considering it's about $3000.
The 'box' under the light is a separate bolt-on section with a rubber gasket between it and the main bumper for some reason.
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Looks like you have to remove the rear-most mufflers to make room for this support bracket. That may be fine, but I have no idea how the truck sounds without them.
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Still uses the stock worthless trailer hitch of course - no way around that unless you're willing to cut the back of the truck up like we did.
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The driver's side doesn't fit very close or follow the lines of the fender very well. They had fairly large rubber hose stuffed into the gap to act as filler. Having some gap is good to help keep from damaging bodywork or a tail light if the bumper takes a hit, but this is really off for the money. You can also sort of see the rub marks on the fender flare from contact.
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The passenger side wasn't any better.
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Granted, this is on a truck that has been used a fair bit, so maybe it's taken some hits and the alignment has been tweeked since it was mounted. The installation was done by LRLV, so they should have done as good a job as anybody.

I'm not saying Pedram's bumper will be finished to a higher standard or have better fit, but this is a one-off by a guy working in a storage unit with a stick welder and a grinder while the Kaymar is a supposedly high-end production piece.

I haven't seen the Tactical rear bumper in person, but it's about half the price of the Kaymar and I have to think it would fit as well or better.

Edited by DHappel, 30 May 2014 - 03:40 PM.

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Granted, this is on a truck that has been used a fair bit, so maybe it's taken some hits and the alignment has been tweeked since it was mounted. The installation was done by LRLV, so they should have done as good a job as anybody.

I'm not saying Pedram's bumper will be finished to a higher standard or have better fit, but this is a one-off by a guy working in a storage unit with a stick welder and a grinder while the Kaymar is a supposedly high-end production piece.

I haven't seen the Tactical rear bumper in person, but it's about half the price of the Kaymar and I have to think it would fit as well or better.


Agreed -- your PedramBumperâ„¢ is coming out much better than the Kaymar... the rubber gasket and two-piece build looks amateurish.

I prefer the aggressive angle where your bumper meets up with the car. It looks 'correct'.

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The bumper is looking great!!!

I have pretty much ruled out the Kaymar bumper because I have seen it now on a few LR3s and LR4s and all of them look like there is a fitment issue - especially on the LR4. I also heard that the built-in lamps are prone to electrical issues and condensation. It's a lot of money to put down on something that you need to shimmy quite a bit to fit and use rear mud flaps or it looks even more stupid. I have only seen one LR3 with the Tactical 4x4 bumper and it's a much cleaner fit.
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More progress!
Pedram and I spent an hour or three (as in I just got home at midnight tonight) the last couple days working on the details. At this point the bumper is pretty much done, just cosmetics and a few small things to do like install the gas struts, some stops to keep the swing outs from opening too far, move the license plate and lights, re-install the fender flares, etc. Oh, and we have to make the sliders for the sides, but that will be easy.

It's fully functional now as-is. It's been final-mounted, and the swing outs are final mounted as well. I haven't put a full jerry can in it yet, but the tire is on and seems pretty solid. Following the truck out of the lot and down the road I couldn't see any movement. I'll probably still put some small rubber bumpers at the points the jerry can or tire could contact the hatch though in case it starts getting bounced around on the trail. We tried to keep things as tight as we could to the tailgate.

The pictures aren't very good...just a cell phone after dark. But you'll get the idea.

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I'm eager to get the truck back home and start on the rest of the mods. I've already ordered an ARB front and I'll hopefully have an Urban Offroad rack coming in a few weeks.

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Hey Don,

Looks great - wow, you guys did an awesome job! I know you had the rear parking sensors, so do they go off (a flat line beep) when you put the truck in reverse? I know that happened with my front parking sensors when Pedram and I installed the ARB bumper and I chose not to install the sensors. I used my GAP IIDTool to disable the sensors. Did you order the ARB from 4 Wheel Parts? It sounds like you chatted with Derek, hope you can get your rack before your trip!

I'll drop you a text.....

Looks so good - I would imagine you have to relocate your license plate and light later.

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