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As one starts to offroad bling his truck, the baby gets heavier and heavier with all the accoutrements.
Any suggestions besides the driver going to the gym and avoiding fast food to lighten up the load on a 05LR3?
That baby was the heaviest born from Solihull.
So far the least expensive is remove the 3rd row seats and replace it with a plywood deck, replace the steel winch cable with a synthetic line.
Replace the aux Optima with a smaller battery?
Delete the Hi-Lift?

Let's hear some suggestions for all models.
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I wish I had some good ideas for you but I'm pretty much out on this one. I started out thinking I would do aluminum bumpers and armor for exactly this reason but soon enough I just gave up.

Let me know if you figure out a good way to remove the 3rd row seats. I've considered it but it looks like a PITA so I just leave them folded down.

Some day I should drive my rig over a scale loaded for a trip just to see how bad it is. I'm going to guess 6500 lbs.

That's one thing the next-gen Disco should have going for it over the LR4 - less weight!

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As one starts to offroad bling his truck, the baby gets heavier and heavier with all the accoutrements.
Any suggestions besides the driver going to the gym and avoiding fast food to lighten up the load on a 05LR3?
That baby was the heaviest born from Solihull.
So far the least expensive is remove the 3rd row seats and replace it with a plywood deck, replace the steel winch cable with a synthetic line.
Replace the aux Optima with a smaller battery?
Delete the Hi-Lift?

Let's hear some suggestions for all models.


All interesting. But, how heavy is it and what will lightening the load do for you?

Third row seats if not needed, then I see taking them out. On my RRC, with it's tiny engine, should be on a diet. So I only have what I think are essentials and am working to find a better/easier way to remove when not needed.

I'd say the things I need to review are tools and recovery gear. How many shackles? Can I get a multi wrench or double ended wrenches to lighten the tool bag. But then really, all my tools and load run 75 - 100lbs....

If you just want to reduce weight, I'd ask why? Has something NOT been working correctly that lighter would make better? If the answer is fuel economy......well, give it up. And travel a ton now as gas is "cheap"!

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I'm from the Colin Chapman school of thought when it comes to cars - light is right. Lighter does EVERYTHING better...better economy, less wear and tear on the transmission and running gear, longer tire life, longer suspension life, better performance on road and off, longer brake life...etc. The only place more mass _might_ be good is in an accident. Of course, with a lighter vehicle maybe you'd have the improved handling and performance to avoid that accident in the first place.

Of course, I haven't taken any real steps to push my LR3 that direction. Heck, it's pretty much the opposite of 'simplify then add lightness'. But no doubt you can feel the heft of the rig off road.

OK, so you're not going to suddenly see a 20% jump in economy from any sort of reasonable diet, but every pound helps.

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I'm from the Colin Chapman school of thought when it comes to cars - light is right. Lighter does EVERYTHING better...better economy, less wear and tear on the transmission and running gear, longer tire life, longer suspension life, better performance on road and off, longer brake life...etc. The only place more mass _might_ be good is in an accident. Of course, with a lighter vehicle maybe you'd have the improved handling and performance to avoid that accident in the first place.

Of course, I haven't taken any real steps to push my LR3 that direction. Heck, it's pretty much the opposite of 'simplify then add lightness'. But no doubt you can feel the heft of the rig off road.

OK, so you're not going to suddenly see a 20% jump in economy from any sort of reasonable diet, but every pound helps.


I think my LR4 is up there as well as far as being heavy! This is why I would never use it as a daily driver if I had to commute far. I am not sure how I can lighten my LR4 - likely take the crap off the roof and maybe the HI Lift???
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It's a brick design so removing the 3rd row seats inside, and changing from wire to synthetic I would think will not be much noticeable weight lost (maybe 75 lbs lighter).

But it's a good project to remove the 3rd row seat and build a lite pop-storage instead, and good to upgrade to synthetic anyways.

Unless you go back to stock, your vehicle is just a heavy weight fighter with sliders, winch, winch bumper, off-road tires and roof rack.

If you are not going on trips and just around town, yes I would take off the hi-lift jack, accessories on the roof, and leave the full spare in the garage. Toss in the 3rd row seat removal project and go synthetic. Maybe 200-250 lbs lighter.

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How about mount most of the stuff you consider heavy to your nifty trailer. You'll still have it on the long trips but for bombing around town you can be as light as possible. Or ditch it all and make sure to travel with a buddy who carries all that heavy stuff, then you get the best of both worlds. Hahaha

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You guys cry about weight to much...... My daily driver weights over 9,000lbs. And it's the most expensive gas around. I have nothing else to drive at the moment and I'm doing fine. In fact I have another few hundred pounds of steel in the bed of it. I can't even move it on my own which is the reason why it's still in the bed of my truck.

Honestly these are not designed to be light. If you want to cut down on weight, I doubt removing the rear seats would affect anything. It's an all wheel drive truck with a solid frame and a decent V8. All the wires alone probably weight more than those two seats. Just think that your truck is made to be a boat anchor that can move when it's needed.

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The Hi Lift, how often do you use it, and how useful is it for your truck? I think the best bang for your buck right now is to ditch the Hi Lift off the bumper. If it's needed, find a way to store it in the back (might as well remove the seats), or trailer.

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I seem to recall using a hi-lift on Rupert's truck earlier this year....darn pesky rocks.

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I seem to recall using a hi-lift on Rupert's truck earlier this year....darn pesky rocks.


And that was the only time I decided to leave the jack home. ;(
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But it's a good project to remove the 3rd row seat and build a lite pop-storage instead


Ted is looking for a set of Third Row seats for his LR3 - If you are going to remove them, Ted is in the market to buy them.

I wont save much weight but will provide cash to buy more petrol. ::bigsmile::
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Can you add 3rd row seats? Ours folds down flat into their own special section. Not sure if this exists on trucks that weren't built with a 3rd row.

Let's ask the all knowing Don, i'm off today so I have time to read his reply

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Wait - people actually use their Hi-lift jacks? For what??

I thought to be properly accessorized you needed one of these things... like a bangle, a proper hand-bag or the right pair of shoes... My daughters talk about "accessorizing" all the time so I figured my rack should be accessorized too... :-)


But, as Rupert proved: the one time you don't have it you will need it.

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I always come with my A game. Like "Aye! Why did I bring everything?". I tend to bring more than needed and yes it's a clutter, but I'm able to get home. Expect the unexpected.

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I gots all i need too[ATTACH]5771[/ATTACH]

Of course it's packed away with a bunch of other stuff, department of redundancy department style with 3 random sets of wrenches etc. One day i'll stream line it but it won't be this day.

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That should be in the mods part of your profile.

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Have to add these too as i have about 100 pounds of them in use on the CT[ATTACH]5772[/ATTACH]

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Bailing wire works just as good.

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Yesterday, a 10 lbs. bag full of very large, unneeded bolts was removed from the cargo box. As a bonus, I also found a missing bag of zipties, and my radio pullers during the clean up.

Thanks Rupert!

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