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Ah, well that's the 64-dollar question isn't it? I don't know either. Possibly you could try a local Autozone-type place and just guess (more than you think is my suggestion...50lbs?) and just test them in the parking lot. Not enough? Exchange it for a stronger one. They often have a lot of them in stock.

*edit*

I have a pair of 12x20 struts laying around left over from some old project. I think they are 60 lb. I replaced one of my hatch struts with one of these (these are a little longer than stock but still fit) and it would hold the hatch up but just barely. I suspect if I were to replace both of them then the hatch wouldn't stay open. I can't cross reference the part number on these but I *think* they are 60 lbs, so you might want to start with 70 or 80 lbs. Oh, I think you want 10mm studs as well.

I'd offer you these, but they wouldn't really help you much.

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I don't see a pressure rating on the struts. Anyone know what I should get?


From my experience on the RRC, I would try a set of stock new upper tailgate struts first... often they are just tired and the new ones should fully support having a ladder added (unless the ladder is made of solid lead.)

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If you remove the struts and have someone help you because this gets messy by yourself, weight the hatch and give me a roughly estimated guess on what you think it is. I can get you the exact weight and length within a few days. I know a guy. He's in Washington so it's not really far. So length closed and open, and weight is all I need.

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You shouldn't have to go to that much effort. The struts are pretty generic. Like I said, I happened to have a pair laying around that were OK on size, just not strong enough. You can usually pick them up at any auto parts store. Or of course you can order OEM ones from somebody like AB.

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You shouldn't have to go to that much effort. The struts are pretty generic. Like I said, I happened to have a pair laying around that were OK on size, just not strong enough. You can usually pick them up at any auto parts store. Or of course you can order OEM ones from somebody like AB.


Do be careful of thicker-diameter struts. If I recall correctly the stock ones are already pretty close to touching the frame and going with a larger diameter will probably cause rubbing.

Pedram probably knows a guy though, so everything is good regardless.

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Oh, Urban Offroad has an even funkier option. I don't know if they actually ever sold one, but apparently he made at least on prototype

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I think there's a video on the AB website on replacing struts.
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Really? They made a video of that? All you need is a small flat-blade screwdriver or something similar to pry the clips loose. Not real hard to figure out even for a first timer. Oh well, I think they also had a video of how to change the air filter. Good for them I guess. At least their trying.

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Just curious, what other places have you guys inquired about ladders? Been wanting one since I got my Baja rack, but $700 for the LR one is not my cup of tea. I'm guessing I'll need one custom made for the RRS.

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Voyager makes one : http://www.voyagerra...ry_iii_lad.html Looks to be a nice piece. They donated one this past year for rover rendezvous. I won one of their Disco 1/2 ladders in the raffle and it matches my Baja Rack better than the stock LR Ladder I had before. I know Baja Rack makes a ladder for Disco 1/2 but doesn't have it listed on their site. Might want to contact them and see if they make one for the LR3/4.

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Didnt see that you had an RRS. Since this was an LR3/4 ladder thread I only found that one. Not sure who else makes one for the RRS other than the Safety Devices one. Might be able to call Voyager and see if they can make one for you since they can do custom stuff as well..

Edited by psykokid, 09 January 2015 - 04:04 PM.
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I started to say just get the FrontRunner ladder for $200. Then I caught the part about the RRS. That makes it a little harder. The best I saw in my (short) search was $675 for an OEM one.

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Just curious, what other places have you guys inquired about ladders? Been wanting one since I got my Baja rack, but $700 for the LR one is not my cup of tea. I'm guessing I'll need one custom made for the RRS.


I found the Land Rover Genuine ladder from rimmerbros.co.uk for £370.43/$560.41:

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...not sure if the shipping makes it a wash with the prices you can get here. I haven't seen a lot of other options.

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P-Fab?

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P-Fab?


Certainly another way to go -- that's how I have a super-functional ladder for the RedRover (a '92 RR Classic)... and Pedram has done a lot of work on late model Land Rovers for members in the club as well.

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Tom Owen bought parts from Merriam(sp?) out of Kansas City(?) Get hold of Tom and he can tell you.
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I found the Land Rover Genuine ladder... for £370.43/$560.41
...not sure if the shipping makes it a wash with the prices you can get here. I haven't seen a lot of other options.


GBP374.17 is the U.K. list price, so not much of a bargain.

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Ah, well that's the 64-dollar question isn't it? I don't know either. Possibly you could try a local Autozone-type place and just guess (more than you think is my suggestion...50lbs?) and just test them in the parking lot. Not enough? Exchange it for a stronger one. They often have a lot of them in stock.

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I have a pair of 12x20 struts laying around left over from some old project. I think they are 60 lb. I replaced one of my hatch struts with one of these (these are a little longer than stock but still fit) and it would hold the hatch up but just barely. I suspect if I were to replace both of them then the hatch wouldn't stay open. I can't cross reference the part number on these but I *think* they are 60 lbs, so you might want to start with 70 or 80 lbs. Oh, I think you want 10mm studs as well.

I'd offer you these, but they wouldn't really help you much.



Hmmm do you have the mounting he as well? I'm working up a project muuhwaahhh!!!

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I don't have the mounting tabs I'm afraid, but you're welcome to them if you can use them. Unfortunately their at home and not in the van so I won't have them at the DitD

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I don't have the mounting tabs I'm afraid, but you're welcome to them if you can use them. Unfortunately their at home and not in the van so I won't have them at the DitD


no hurry, we can chat at DitD ;-)

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