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So what does a Solis do when he has a few days off??

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The training was shoot first, fix second. Unless you are the bad guy, then number 1&2 are to shoot

You break it you fix it??

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Something like that Tom
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I want to send a HUGE SHOUT OUT AND THANKS to Jared and Erin for coming over today and in the heat of the day help me resurrect my Dad's RRC which has been in op for at least 6 months. Not exactly sure what it was (we swapped the coil, replaced the ignition amplifier module, messed with a few things, sacrificed some goats and boom she fired up!! There's a small issue of engine timing now as we had removed the dizzy and pretty sure it didn't go back in exactly right. I'll figure that out tonight.
Again thanks to Erin and Jared!!!
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Had a good day working on the '90 RRC.

 

When we arrived around noon, Chris had already checked and recharged the battery for the truck, so we were getting good turnover when we would engage the ignition.  Additionally the ignition coil and distributor had been swapped out but did not correct the issue.  Chris mentioned that he had heard the fuel pump make its high-pitched sound when the key was engaged earlier in the AM when he started working on the truck at 10:30.  We should have good fuel pressure.  Lastly, we did a check through the air filter horn, MAF, and hose to ensure good airflow.

 

Chris noticed after the ignition coil swap that the spark power was weaker than with the original Bosch ignition coil, so we put it back in.  Turned over the engine, no fire-up.

 

Next, because the ignition amplifier couldn't be confirmed to be new, we pulled the distributor, removed the ignition amp unit and swapped in a known-good one from a spare disty that Chris had.  We did our best to realign the distributor and put it all back together.  No start up.  Still able to confirm spark out to the distributor and down to the plugs, but Chris notes that it is a weak spark.  Luckily we had a reference RRC (RedRover) which confirmed that the spark from Chris' '90 did in fact appear weaker.  Unfortunately this had us focus on the engine ignition system, missing a key element that would have potentially changed our troubleshooting method.

 

After some more screwing around with the ignition coils, eventually we take a break, as we checked against the Range Rover Classic Workshop Manual (The Bible) and one of the key multimeter readings was supposed to show 0 volts -- in reality, it showed closer to 12V.  Could the book be wrong or is this our actual issue?  

 

Again, we checked the RedRover -- also got a reading of 12V.  Went online -- others have called out this error in the book.  Yet another frustrating dead end.

 

Finally, we head back out and start talking about, even with a weak spark, can we force starting fluid into the plenum to see if it causes at least a rough misfire or something to signal that we're at least close to having the key elements of a running engine.  Chris turns over the engine as I sprayed in the fluid -- POP POP POP... we hear an odd, low noise that sounds like some sort of ignition but not anything that would turn the car over.

 

After we stopped spraying fluid in and turned the car over, I noticed the POP POP POP would slowly fade out until the starting fluid had been consumed.  I started thinking, "could we be fuel-starved?" -- so I got under the car in the rear and had Chris turn the key to the ON position -- no fuel pump noise.

 

At this point, we also start to check whether we're getting any error codes showing up on the ECU - nothing.  Chris had swapped out relays for the ECU and fuel pump before I had arrived in an attempt to troubleshoot -- however, it turned out that the quality of the relays were suspect, and upon installing the older relays, we now had the fuel pump making its normal startup sound.

 

Chris turned over the engine and sure-enough, VROOM (the official sound of an engine working again) -- the RRC fired up right away.  Probably needed a good tune up, but it was running and not stalling.

 

Chris took the 1990 out on a road test with RedRover bringing up the rear... I saw a few heads turn with two Portofino Red Range Rover Classics heading down the road -- that was fun.

 

Chris noticed that on road, the RRC was running well, but as it approached stops it had the tendency to want to stall, so clearly there is more work to be done but at least the truck is operational again.

 

Had a lot of fun troubleshooting and working through the component isolation.  Also was a good lesson all around on how to work on some basic engine issues.  In the end, just sacrifice a goat* -- it's a lot faster.

 

*No goats were harmed in the repair of this Land Rover


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So now that the classic is at least running I was able to throw some love and sliders at the LR4. Took a bit of work between my dad and I and a bad knee but the deed is done! Attached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1429908309.549659.jpg   194.62KB   11 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1429908317.449495.jpg   257.84KB   11 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1429908326.352310.jpg   204.88KB   12 downloads
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Looking good!   You can always tell the wife they're steps....  very heavy, robust steps.


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So now that the classic is at least running I was able to throw some love and sliders at the LR4. Took a bit of work between my dad and I and a bad knee but the deed is done! 

 

Oh yes.  I assume Erin already has these on the to-do list... very nice looking Chris!


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Looking good! You can always tell the wife they're steps.... very heavy, robust steps.

I thought you were going to say "you can always tell when the wife is out of town". :-)

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Looks great Kiley...eh..Chris

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Today's adventure: dual battery install in the LR4. It was a PITA as advertised. Required relocation of the transfer case control module (which was done a few weeks ago). I haven't added the fuse block in the back yet but the 2 12V sockets are wired. I converted the existing 12V to an always on and added an always on 12V. Plan to put the dedicated fridge outlet on the passenger side and run the power wires for the HAM radio. Also have an Anderson connector for my solar panel in the back. Attached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1431911104.047590.jpg   224.46KB   11 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1431911114.417027.jpg   242.49KB   11 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1431911128.733101.jpg   245.36KB   11 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1431917364.320545.jpg   247.38KB   11 downloads

Edited by ChristopherSolis, 17 May 2015 - 06:49 PM.

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Today's adventure: dual battery install in the LR4.

 

Chris,

 

Your wife is very lucky that you put in all this effort on her vehicle ....

 

Graeme


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Finished up the fuse block. Tomorrow will be the HAM radio and fridge outlet. Attached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432182406.774643.jpg   220.5KB   10 downloads

Also, I have made a new hat....well technically bought the individual components and paid someone to assemble them. Ah the big business way.

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OK the deeds are done (although I have created/discovered a new issue due to "ship builder's disease" of while I'm here, but more on that later).

Driver's side trim where the tail gate hinge is. There is a nice channel to run wires from driver to passenger side.
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Took down the passenger speaker housing, rear cargo trim, removed the tail gate support cable, drilled () through the body of the truck up near the lift gate hinge. Ran the antenna (had a nice small connector) through the hole via a grommet (and a crap ton of silicone) into behind the speaker and down into the area with the other wires. Attached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269616.426320.jpg   203.18KB   8 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269625.058795.jpg   342.33KB   8 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269634.060912.jpg   171.46KB   8 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269647.377266.jpg   186.27KB   8 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269654.792545.jpg   238.18KB   7 downloads

Then ran the wires forward (there are some nice channels to hide everything but makes the install a PITA.
Once I was at the passenger seat I had to drill another hole in the seat base to run wires. The radio mounted ok w the double sided tape but I think I'm gonna go with Don's method. Attached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269781.638597.jpg   264.49KB   8 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269790.623491.jpg   197.19KB   8 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269804.991488.jpg   183.25KB   8 downloadsAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269816.856843.jpg   213.96KB   8 downloads

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Antenna in the back, doesn't stick up too high, can get in/out of the garage with it in place. Won't hit the roof rack rack when installed. Attached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269886.214332.jpg   201.13KB   10 downloads

And the fridge port (requires its own special "hella powerlet"). All the 12V ports are now always hot. Attached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432269940.017111.jpg   256.4KB   10 downloads

So here is where the fun began. I popped out the center console to run the lead for the remote faceplate trying to keep all wires hidden. Once it was up and the wire was ran I thought hmmm, I've always wanted a dual USB port instead of a cig lighter port up front so let's see what I can do. I popped out the stock port Attached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432270067.665418.jpg   176.64KB   11 downloads and borrowed a bluesea dual USB from the CT, changed some connectors and hooked it all back up. Put everything back together, programmed the Yaesu, made contact with the Mt Diablo repeater and thought to myself "nice work".
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Back side of the USB port.
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Front side of the USB port
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And this is all you see (for now) for the HAM radioAttached File  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1432270284.344139.jpg   211.92KB   11 downloads


Here's the problem and if anyone has suggestions please let me know. The USB port doesn't have power. I checked the wiring and positive to positive, negative to negative, but no power at the lead from the car. Checked the fuse, it's ok. Have to check the relay but wanted to see if anyone knew of any reason why the bluesea would not be compatible?
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Was the green LED light illuminated on the usb socket when you took it out of the CT (assuming it's always hot)?


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Awesome Chris!  Skills of a Surgeon!  oh...wait... Hey!!!!  :-)


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B-yes the port worked but I'm going to test it again just to make sure. Using the volt meter there is no power from the truck to the port so im starting there.

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I did this mess on Michal's truck last weekend. It wasn't too hard to do. Just a lot to do. In all it takes a full day with motivation and two if your still awake.

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Is it me or does the LR4 console contain a part that says 'Water Shedder' on it?

 

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