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Should be a sticky or in the tech thread section... Q: How can we carve out this info into a new/better home when an otherwise unsuspecting thread get hijacked? Thanks guys, Tom

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What Don does in a "few minutes"..... And this is only chapter two? I think he needs his own club page


Don is pretty darn amazing at putting out the information!
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Rich, I just noticed you were thinking of 285/65-18s - I would strongly caution against this size. I don't know anybody who's done that and would expect significant problems fitting it, particularly with spacers. some people have run 285/60-18s, but again I would suggest going with the 265-65 or 275-65 (w/o spacers).

As I mentioned earlier, you really are looking for height and sidewall more than width. With the narrower tire you'll have less rubbing problems at a given diameter. For my next tire I am thinking of trying a 265/70-18 which would be about .5" narrower but .6" taller than what I have now (275/65, which is 32" tall). I do think this would be a problem if I have a suspension failure that puts me on the bump stops though as I just rub a bit in that failure mode now. Adding the extra diameter may be enough to make it undriveable on the bump stops.

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Rich, I just noticed you were thinking of 285/65-18s - I would strongly caution against this size. I don't know anybody who's done that and would expect significant problems fitting it, particularly with spacers. some people have run 285/60-18s, but again I would suggest going with the 265-65 or 275-65 (w/o spacers).

As I mentioned earlier, you really are looking for height and sidewall more than width. With the narrower tire you'll have less rubbing problems at a given diameter. For my next tire I am thinking of trying a 265/70-18 which would be about .5" narrower but .6" taller than what I have now (275/65, which is 32" tall). I do think this would be a problem if I have a suspension failure that puts me on the bump stops though as I just rub a bit in that failure mode now. Adding the extra diameter may be enough to make it undriveable on the bump stops.


I know a guy who did 285/85R18 and had significant problems and ended up not going that route. I think he did all the lift and trimming he could and still had issues. I can try to find his e-mail, but I know it was that size. He used 18" LR3 wheels with spacers.
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Great info Don! Thank you very much. As I mentioned earlier, I have decided to go with the 275/65/18's but not sure if I want to save myself the headache of trying to make the LR3 wheels work. Quick question, do you know if the Compos come in any other offset other than the ET44 mentioned on their website? I'll try to contact them this week and see what options they have. I only ask because one of the reasons I was considering the LR3 wheel instead of the Compos was because I like the look the spacers would provide by pushing the wheel out to be more flush with the fenders. I might experiment with the Compos and .5" spacers to see what I can come up with...if I go the Compo route that is. I'll definitely post once I digest all the information you guys and gals have provided and make a decision. Thanks for the details Don et al. Awesome info!

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Not sure what backspacing they offer, but going with the Compos in ET44 and a .5" spacer would be a good way to experiment. If the extra spacer causes issues you can simply remove it.

I agree it looks better with the wider track, but the larger swing radius of the wheel + spacer makes it harder to fit the 275s

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We should all do this to our LR's: ::nuts::

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We should all do this to our LR's: ::nuts::

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I would buy that truck in a second! It's really too bad Land Rover doesn't have a disco that comes like that from the factory!
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They HAD a Disco like that from the factory:) 2004 D2, G4 Edition. There were only 250 or 500 made for the US. The color is Tangiers Orange, paint code LRC761.

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Well, I think those are probably about 35s or 37s by scale - Too bad you'll NEVER see that much tire on an LR3/4! We can only hope the next gen Defender will accommodate those with 'the need'.

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I know it's off topic for this thread but I thought this was a cool video demonstrating the advantages between LSD, Locking Diff with a traction control system and ARB Lockers. I thought I would share...enjoy:



I'm going to install a locking rear diff, does anyone know of a shop that will do the work? Thanks!

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The choices for locker diffs are limited (ha!)

I don't know anybody who's done one in the LR3/4, but any good shop should be able to handle it. Cerronies for example might be an option.

Supposedly ARB makes an air locker for the LR4, but I don't know anybody who's actually seen one 'in the wild'. And the ARB-USA people aren't super helpful. David stopped into the ARB booth at the recent 4Wheel expo in San Mateo and they pretty much said 'Land Rover? Do we make stuff for them?'

Graeme is working with a company in the UK who might be making a locker, but at this point I don't think anything has gone to production.

Of course there's the factory rear locker from the HD models but it's fairly rare so it's unlikely you would find one used, and I'm sure it's brutally expensive from a dealer. You would also probably have to have a dealer update the on-board computers if you went this route as it's an electronic locker controlled by the traction control systems.

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We should all do this to our LR's: ::nuts::

https://www.flickr.c...57614108553753/


That's a scale model, right? Some of the photos almost had me believing it was real...

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Yes. You should see Shayne Young's CT110 RC car. He brought it to Death Valley in 2013. It's a complete recreation of his CT110, including the decals and RTT. It has a working winch which was used to cut tortillas in half. Very cool and very $$$.

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I started to suggest we should all do the scale stuff so we could at least save money, but I know some people get _really_ into it to the point where I'm not sure how much savings there would be!

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Yeah, his rc car was about $5,000.

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Yeah, his rc car was about $5,000.


<cringe!> At least they don't take up as much space in the garage!

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But they clean out your account. I'll stick to my full size cars for now. That's enough hobby for me.

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Phase I - Addition of Johnson Rods, 18" wheels and 275/65/18 tires complete.

Phase II and possibly Phase III - Baja Rack, rear mounted Spare Tire Carrier, Ladder, ARB Rear Locker, ARB Front Bumper, XD9000 Winch, any suggestions?  :)

 

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| Black 2012 LR4 HSE | Johnson Rods | IIDTool | 18x8.5 ET +33 Wheels | Toyo Open Country M/T 275/65/18 Tires | Baja Rack |

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Nice.  What are the specs on the wheels?   Any issues with brake clearance?  It looks like you have about the same backspacing as the Compos and less than the LR3 wheels w/spacers, which no doubt helps with clearance for the 275s.  BTW, what sort of trimming did you have to do for clearance?  It seems to be different with every truck.


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