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Thanks Tom,  I ordered the sub panel.  It's shipping from Hong Kong, so probably a week+ to get here.  No playing with it this weekend I'm afraid.

 

Still need to decide on an antenna mount.  I'll probably just do the NR770 to keep it easy.  If HRO were open early/late I'd probably just swing by there and pick something up but I didn't get back to Oakland until they were closed and I have to leave tomorrow before they open.  And I doubt they have a store in Sausalito where I'm working tomorrow.


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FT2900R all the way!

 

Tyler,

 

Agreed there.  Cheap 2M and that was all I needed .... I hear that if you are an Electronic Engineer they can be modified too .... eh, allegedly....

 

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Has anyone used the Kenwood d710 G? I like the yaesu but want aprs. I've never seen one in person.

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Thanks Tom, I ordered the sub panel. It's shipping from Hong Kong, so probably a week+ to get here. No playing with it this weekend I'm afraid.

Still need to decide on an antenna mount. I'll probably just do the NR770 to keep it easy. If HRO were open early/late I'd probably just swing by there and pick something up but I didn't get back to Oakland until they were closed and I have to leave tomorrow before they open. And I doubt they have a store in Sausalito where I'm working tomorrow.

Did you see the amount I got? It works well with the rack.

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Tyler, would you recommend a mobile unit for the Mendo Rally (currently have an HT, VX-6R)? If so, I'll bump that up on my list of to-do's.

 

I definitely would. You don't want blind spots, especially if you are going to be driving the course. Usually the rallymaster puts the HT guys on the stations closest to service, where net control is located. If you are on the course they really hound you about knowing exactly where you are, and they REALLY do not like it when you are off comm. Last year they even made us report our mileage, which did not work, as everyone kept forgetting to reset their trip meters and had different sized tires. It was a little funny when they kept getting three different numbers from all the sweeps, who were in the same location. 

 

One of the jobs as a sweep is to keep net control updated at all times. I had a co-driver as a dedicated radio operator, so I could drive/recover people etc. He was almost constantly at the radio, because net control kept asking for updates in the middle of recoveries. They are very strict about their HAM protocol during the event, but it is fairly easy to get used to. 


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Good to know. I have't seen any updates about being on the sweep team or not, but I'll plan as if I am. If you're "in" with the organizers, can you find out where they're at in the process?


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Hey NIck, got a link?


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Tyler,

I hear that if you are an Electronic Engineer they can be modified too .... eh, allegedly....

Graeme


Speaking of... We have enough ft-8800's in the club someone, um,Graeme, could easily learn how to do the MARS/CAP mod and set up shop. Like a "de-solder" day instead of a "wrenching" day šŸ˜Š

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Hey NIck, got a link?

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Can I crash in a quick question on this thread? Re: xband repeat, if just one truck on the trail has xband repeat, could all the other people with mobiles+Hts just keep their mobile on the group frequency and their Hts on the xband repeat frequency for when they leave their truck? Or is there some reason why you would personally need to have your own xband-capable mobile?

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Can I crash in a quick question on this thread? Re: xband repeat, if just one truck on the trail has xband repeat, could all the other people with mobiles+Hts just keep their mobile on the group frequency and their Hts on the xband repeat frequency for when they leave their truck? Or is there some reason why you would personally need to have your own xband-capable mobile?

 

A good question.  Rather like "if Chris Solis is on the trip then why do I need a first aid kit, tool kit, spare parts, ......?"

 

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1990 Range Rover Classic - LT230 Transfer box, Warn winch, 2" lift, 235/85-16 Dunlop MUD Rovers, "Blue Submarine"
1996 Discovery 1 (R380 Manual Transmission, Ashcroft under-drive, RoverWare rear bumper, 33x12.5-15 BFG ATs) -- we call her "Katrina" -- Fordyce 7.5 mile survivor
1999 Discovery 2 (D1 CDL Linkage, 265/75-16 BFG A/T KO, RoverWare front and rear bumper)
1993 Jaguar XJS convertible; 1971 Triumph GT6; 1959 Morris Minor convertible, Tesla Model 3,
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Can I crash in a quick question on this thread? Re: xband repeat, if just one truck on the trail has xband repeat, could all the other people with mobiles+Hts just keep their mobile on the group frequency and their Hts on the xband repeat frequency for when they leave their truck? Or is there some reason why you would personally need to have your own xband-capable mobile?

Technically Yes, it acts like a small repeater. We are looking into setting up a solo unit where in the case of situations like the Sierra trip where the lake is in a valley an coverage is very difficult from lake to trail, a self contained xBand capable unit with a battery and solar and we should greatly expand our range for folks coming in to the camp.

 

(this is a great place for a witty comment to the effect of "only works for paid member's radios...", but I wouldn't want to be misunderstood and offend anyone ;-) 


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Technically Yes, it acts like a small repeater. We are looking into setting up a solo unit where in the case of situations like the Sierra trip where the lake is in a valley an coverage is very difficult from lake to trail, a self contained xBand capable unit with a battery and solar and we should greatly expand our range for folks coming in to the camp.

(this is a great place for a witty comment to the effect of "only works for paid member's radios...", but I wouldn't want to be misunderstood and offend anyone ;-)

the club repeater can use a mystery super-secret tone and nonstandard tx/rx offset...membership gets u the password..lol
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the club repeater can use a mystery super-secret tone and nonstandard tx/rx offset...membership gets u the password..lol

LOL~

 

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Technically Yes, it acts like a small repeater. We are looking into setting up a solo unit where in the case of situations like the Sierra trip where the lake is in a valley an coverage is very difficult from lake to trail, a self contained xBand capable unit with a battery and solar and we should greatly expand our range for folks coming in to the camp.

 

(this is a great place for a witty comment to the effect of "only works for paid member's radios...", but I wouldn't want to be misunderstood and offend anyone ;-) 

I've been trying to decide if the extra cost for a dual-band with the xband repeat is really worth it. It seems like there are a decent number of people with that feature, so if we were to standardize the 70cm frequency in the club similar to the 2m 146.460 "usual", maybe others with HTs could take advantage of the xband repeat and also save some money on their mobile. "Alright guys, set your mobiles to 146.460 and your HTs to 440....." 

 

I actually wondered if that comment would show up when I posted the last post....  :lol:

 

the club repeater can use a mystery super-secret tone and nonstandard tx/rx offset...membership gets u the password..lol

 
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All,

 

When do you actually want to talk outside the convoy anyway?  A few miles, yes, but more than that?  That's what repeaters are for.  You all just need better coat hangers.  If I knew how to program my Wouxun, I'd see if I could reach Dodge Ridge on that .... after all, here to Oakland on 5W, using a good 5/8 mag mount on a cookie tin, was no problem earlier this year.

 

I'm only half joking.  It is all about coax and antenna matching .... what?  You haven't matched those?

 

Regards,

 

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1990 Range Rover Classic - LT230 Transfer box, Warn winch, 2" lift, 235/85-16 Dunlop MUD Rovers, "Blue Submarine"
1996 Discovery 1 (R380 Manual Transmission, Ashcroft under-drive, RoverWare rear bumper, 33x12.5-15 BFG ATs) -- we call her "Katrina" -- Fordyce 7.5 mile survivor
1999 Discovery 2 (D1 CDL Linkage, 265/75-16 BFG A/T KO, RoverWare front and rear bumper)
1993 Jaguar XJS convertible; 1971 Triumph GT6; 1959 Morris Minor convertible, Tesla Model 3,
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I've been trying to decide if the extra cost for a dual-band with the xband repeat is really worth it. It seems like there are a decent number of people with that feature, so if we were to standardize the 70cm frequency in the club similar to the 2m 146.460 "usual", maybe others with HTs could take advantage of the xband repeat and also save some money on their mobile. "Alright guys, set your mobiles to 146.460 and your HTs to 440....." 

 

I actually wondered if that comment would show up when I posted the last post....  :lol:

 

 
{6 year old voice} Secrets don't make friends!!! { / 6 year old voice}

 

 

(I'm predictable ;-)  

 

My feeling is that for trail related stuff and HT with external antenna, power and speaker mic will suffice.  Something like the Yaesu FT-60r looks solid.  But if you want/need more power of a Mobile rig, that works too.  As much as I have an 8800 and bought it because of the the xBand Rpt, I have actually never used it beyond testing. As more and more folks have that radio, I can see us getting to the point of giving it a try.   This may lead you to think it's not a feature you need.  Graeme, Chuck and Tyler have gone that route with the 2900 which is a rock solid mobile rig with great range from everything from a Firestick to a coat hanger :-)

 

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As I understand it, one rig has to be set to xband repeat but everyone w a nearby HT can benefit. So no, you don't need a rig that will xband repeat. Personally I plan to use it for walking around camp with my HT but have the benefit of the 50w rig. As Tom said, this is going to be most beneficial at White Rock.

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Here is the antenna I got for the LR4 and here is the install plan. Will be putting it at an angle so it's easier for the driver to see. I'm going use double sided 3M tape to mount the faceplate. I used it on the CT and it has held up well. Also allowed me to move it easily (with goo remover).

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Extra antenna length to reach.
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Ive been trying to find a non-invasive location to mount a remote face in our lr4. Think you'll be able to work it over on the passenger side?

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