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So... I've been noticing a ticking (or clicking, depending on how you want to interpret the noise) coming from somewhere in or near the rear drivers side wheel area.  I know that is general, but I don't know how else to explain it.  I've eliminated the rock stuck in tire theory as well as any lose wires, or sticks, or anything hitting the rims.  It's getting louder as time goes on and the ticking gets faster or slower if I either accelerate or decelerate.  Possibly a wheel bearing going bad?

 

Any ideas?  I've been reading online that things like spacers can affect the longevity of the bearings.


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Could be a bad CV joint... Does it do it more around turns?
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Could be a bad CV joint... Does it do it more around turns?

 

No... it does it when I drive in general... in Drive and Reverse.  It gets quieter at higher speeds and louder at slower speeds. 


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Hi Erin,

 

I know how it feels when you hear any sounds that sound other than routine. 

 

I am not sure but, If its bearing then jack the tire and see if there is any movement. Also try to spin the tire when lifted and see if you can reproduce that sound.

Good luck. Hope it is found easily and a simple fix.


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Do LR4's have "stepper motors"? Never mind if the speed and frequency of the tick is appropriate to the revs of the engine...


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Do LR4's have "stepper motors"? Never mind if the speed and frequency of the tick is appropriate to the revs of the engine...

 

I would think they do (I couldn't find info online about Land Rover models that do or don't have them), but the engine idle and revs are normal.  I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the wheel or similar. 


Edited by erinw.rrc, 02 July 2015 - 03:08 PM.

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Oh, the sound I not coming from within the engine compartment...

Sounds like its something that moves or comes close to something that moves. Brakes feel ok? Trying to rule out rotor and caliper etc...
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My gut feeling would be CV or wheel bearing. I wouldn't really expect an issue from either at your age though.

As suggested, jack the suspect wheel up off the ground and try spinning it by hand. Also try shaking it top and bottom. Any movement of the wheel would indicate a wheel bearing. The CV wouldn't cause movement but could make noise. While the truck is up the air also have a god lok around the axle at both the wheel and different ends looking for signs of oil or grease. About the only way I would expect you to have a CV problem is if possibly you've torn a boot letting the Greece out which then let it run dry. If a boot is torn there should be a pretty obvious mess.

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....letting the Greece out....


I blame the IMF ...
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My friend in FL with the LR4 who had 18" LR3 wheels and spacers (and MT tires) also had a similar issue and it was a combination of the wheel bearing and I think he needed to have the tire remounted and balanced. He had the problem again on another wheel and it was the wheel bearing again. I am not sure if the spacers had anything to do with it, but he had the same problem you are describing. Good luck - hope it's an easy fix!

 

Just in case, you have the CPO warranty - right?

 

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I blame the IMF ...


I blame Android

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My friend in FL with the LR4 who had 18" LR3 wheels and spacers (and MT tires) also had a similar issue and it was a combination of the wheel bearing and I think he needed to have the tire remounted and balanced. He had the problem again on another wheel and it was the wheel bearing again. I am not sure if the spacers had anything to do with it, but he had the same problem you are describing. Good luck - hope it's an easy fix!
 
Just in case, you have the CPO warranty - right?
 
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I'm sure running spacers adds some amount of stress to the wheel bearings but I find it hard to believe it would have had an effect in such a short time on Erin'S truck. I doubt she's had those wheels on for 5000 miles yet.

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If you would describe it as a "cyclic squeak"..... it is very common issue on LR4 and there is a bulletin for repair for it from the factory..... Its basically a parking brake clean and adjustment. The parking brake adjustment is easy, but finicky, if that makes any sense. 

 

If you send me a video of it I could have a better idea, and if you're still under warranty I know a dealer tech.... :) 


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If you would describe it as a "cyclic squeak"..... it is very common issue on LR4 and there is a bulletin for repair for it from the factory..... Its basically a parking brake clean and adjustment. The parking brake adjustment is easy, but finicky, if that makes any sense. 

 

If you send me a video of it I could have a better idea, and if you're still under warranty I know a dealer tech.... :)

I like this guy....

 

And I also find this sort of thing more probable than an actual failure of a CV or wheel bearing.  I've never heard of anybody loosing a rear CV on an LR4, and it just seems way too soon for a wheel bearing under normal circumstances.


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It wasn't a squeak of any kind. It's a tick. I was too lazy to mess with it so I dropped it off at LRSJ this morning.


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Just in case, you have the CPO warranty - right?

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Unfortunately no, it wasn't a CPO truck. I think it had too many miles on it.


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Unfortunately no, it wasn't a CPO truck. I think it had too many miles on it.


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I like this guy....

And I also find this sort of thing more probable than an actual failure of a CV or wheel bearing. I've never heard of anybody loosing a rear CV on an LR4, and it just seems way too soon for a wheel bearing under normal circumstances.


I agree with Don, seems a lot less likely. My friend in FL had way more miles and the tires were older. He has since sold his LR4 for a 4Runner TRD Pro, then hated it and it got lemon law, and now has a BMW 540i and looking for an older Disco.
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He has since sold his LR4 for a 4Runner TRD Pro, then hated it and it got lemon law, and now has a BMW 540i and looking for an older Disco.


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Just to repeat: guy had a Rover, sold it and got a yota which was such a pos he got it lemon lawed, and is now looking for another Rover.
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I like this guy....

 

And I also find this sort of thing more probable than an actual failure of a CV or wheel bearing.  I've never heard of anybody loosing a rear CV on an LR4, and it just seems way too soon for a wheel bearing under normal circumstances.

 

I have done plenty of wheel bearings on Rovers with -10k on them. Spacers/off road tires add exponential load. 







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