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LR4 and Ticking Sound

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So... the verdict is in... NOTHING! 

 

The low down... I took my truck into LRSJ on Friday morning, by 2 pm my service advisor called and said they couldn't get the spacer off and that one bolt was just spinning on the stud.  They wanted to know if I wanted to go ahead with the labor to see if they could remove bolt in order to take off the spacer in order to check for any issues, in the end they told me that the hub would probably need to be replaced and they wouldn't be able to start until Monday and if parts were in-stock at Land Rover, they should have them by Tuesday.  I was like, well, I guess I don't really need my truck this weekend, and I want a safe vehicle to drive, so go ahead.  

 

Today rolls around and by 1 pm, my service advisor had called me to say they had good news... they were able to get the bolt off, and save the stud (they re-tapped it), saved the hub and the spacer... and determined that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the bearings, the CV joint, the parking break or anything else.  

 

They put it all back together and test drove it and the ticking is gone.  How do you like that?  Their only thought was that stupid bolt was causing the ticking somehow.  Anyway, in the end it only cost me the labor, but they suggested I get a set of new bolts and they would replace them for free.  Lame.

 

At least the truck is safe to drive... I have women's trip to prepare for!


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.... service advisor called and said they couldn't get the spacer off and that one bolt was just spinning on the stud.  They wanted to know if I wanted to go ahead with the labor to see if they could remove bolt in order to take off the spacer in order to check for any issues

 

... they were able to get the bolt off, and save the stud (they re-tapped it), saved the hub and the spacer....

 

Erin,

 

I'll call on Don to comment on this as he knows the set-up on your vehicle, but I'm calling BS at the moment on the above .... how can you re-tap something that is spinning already?

 

Graeme


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Erin,

 

I'll call on Don to comment on this as he knows the set-up on your vehicle, but I'm calling BS at the moment on the above .... how can you re-tap something that is spinning already?

 

Graeme

 

Well, perhaps I don't understand the entire process exactly, but they said the bolt had been over torqued.  They told me they re-tapped the threads on the stud so it could be put back together.


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I would have to look at it again to remember exactly how the spacers fit. I don't recall a bolt at all. It seemS like there were the stock studs and the studs on the spacer. From the description I'm guessing they were initially unable to get the spacer off of the stock studs because one had been over torqued and stripped. If that's the case then I agree with Graeme that they couldn't have simply re-threaded the stud.

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I would have to look at it again to remember exactly how the spacers fit. I don't recall a bolt at all. It seemS like there were the stock studs and the studs on the spacer. From the description I'm guessing they were initially unable to get the spacer off of the stock studs because one had been over torqued and stripped. If that's the case then I agree with Graeme that they couldn't have simply re-threaded the stud.

 

there were five nylock nuts that hold the spacer to the hub via the stock studs.  the spacer then has 5 studs to which the wheel goes on and uses the OEM lug nuts.   One of the nylock nuts was over torqued.  

 

I attached their "word selection" perhaps it explains better... 

 

After the work "set", second pages says, "torque on spacer to 103 ft lbs. Test drove vehicle, vehicle did not make clicking noise during the final test drive."

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I attached their "word selection" perhaps it explains better... 

 

"Misc aftermarket parts installed / may not be a warranty issue"  ... and therein is their "get out".  Buy a Land Wind next time ....

 

Graeme


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"Misc aftermarket parts installed / may not be a warranty issue"  ... and therein is their "get out".  Buy a Land Wind next time ....
 
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that's always the case. On the one hand, I understand and don't mind-clearly a mod'ed truck could have an aftermarket part fail that would not be warranty. But all to often a dealer will take one look, see something non-stock, and throw up their hands without even trying.at least in this case it looks like they made an effort. Plus at least they called to keep you informed along the way.
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Well when that bolt was loose on ghost's shock tower, it made a ticking sound that progressively became louder over time. I know it's not the same thing or even in the same location, but I can see how they would think it was the bolt.

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that's always the case. On the one hand, I understand and don't mind-clearly a mod'ed truck could have an aftermarket part fail that would not be warranty. But all to often a dealer will take one look, see something non-stock, and throw up their hands without even trying.at least in this case it looks like they made an effort. Plus at least they called to keep you informed along the way.

 

Yes, we've been happy with the service at LRSJ.  We take both the LR4 and the '12 Range Rover; they are very attentive. 


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Just to repeat: guy had a Rover, sold it and got a yota which was such a pos he got it lemon lawed, and is now looking for another Rover.


UPDATE: he's not getting a Disco, I was wrong, he's getting an FJ80 or Series 100 Land Cruiser. I thought he told me he was getting a Disco, but he actually meant he would "never" get a Disco. Wooops!
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UPDATE: he's not getting a Disco, I was wrong, he's getting an FJ80 or Series 100 Land Cruiser. I thought he told me he was getting a Disco, but he actually meant he would "never" get a Disco. Wooops!

 

Well that puts a different spin on things.

 

Had a Rover and sold it.  Bought a new Yota but had so much trouble with it he lemon law-ed it.  But was still endoctranated in the Toyota story he decided to buy an older one. 

 

Clearly he wasn't cut out for Rover ownership to begin with.  And I suspect he might smell funny too.  :)


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Well that puts a different spin on things.

Had a Rover and sold it. Bought a new Yota but had so much trouble with it he lemon law-ed it. But was still endoctranated in the Toyota story he decided to buy an older one.

Clearly he wasn't cut out for Rover ownership to begin with. And I suspect he might smell funny too. :)


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My front bearing went bad on my rrs - but at 70k miles - it made a ticking sound also that got louder with speed - aamco spent an hour looking at it for me and didn't think it was the bearing - but I told them it got louder when turning into that wheel and quieter when the weight was off the wheel - no play when the wheel was on the Jack and no noise when rotated in the air. I got a new timken bearing from rock auto and had them change it anyway .. Solved the problem. Lucky they only charged me $100 for the labor ...( I guess I could have done it myself after watching them do it - but didn't have much time that week)
Hope yours is a simple fix. If out of warranty I'm not sure id take it the lrsj though ! Unless you need electrics done that need dealer specific computer. Bearing was no different from doing it on an Explorer and Aamco guys did it pretty quick while I watched ....
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I'd also note that amost all shops seem to rush to put the wheels back on with an air wrench and even when they use torque wrench to check settings after the air gun - some bolts can still be way over torqued - I broke my breaker bar last time trying to remove one wheel nut the dealer had put on ...ok well it was a harbor freight bar ! But still - one more reason to diy things !!
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