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Planning on going to 35's on the classic, 16x8s. Wondering how much backspacing I should run? Also which wheels are good/junk? I've read complaints about the pro comps. The ok off road ones get decent reviews and come with a 4.25" backspacing. I was think perhaps I can get away with a little more backspacing but I don't know when it will start rubbing on things. I'm not look I ng to shove the tires way out and would prefer to keep them inside the fenders as much as possible.

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I don't have the answers as I recently started an 'info gathering' thread on wheels as well here: 

http://norcalrovers....heels/?hl=wheel

 

The general opinion seemed to lean toward 15" for the cheaper tires though I'm not sure what the future looks like for 15s.  Fuller is running Marsh wheels - they will build you anything you want pretty cheaply.  Graeme and Colin are running a 15" as well, both the same brand, but I forget the brand though they are pretty inexpensive.


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Sounds Like you have made your mind up already! :P

 

Metric tires as mentioned before are way more expensive (perhaps not a problem for you?)

 

the Pro comp wheel is cheap but effective and can easily be beaten back into shape with a hammer... they are available in both 15" & 16"


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I run 16x8's with a 5 inch backspacing. Picture shows the wheel on my defender transplant axles so you can get an idea on space.

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Edited by myroverleaks, 08 February 2016 - 06:09 PM.

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thanks for the pic.

 

which 16x8's are those and what size tire is on them?  i'm wondering if i ran a 35" aired down would it hit the knuckle?  your tires don't look very wide.  does the defender knuckle have the same shape as the RRC one?  i thought it did but not sure.

 

 

I run 16x8's with a 5 inch backspacing. Picture shows the wheel on my defender transplant axles so you can get an idea on space.


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i was worried about the 15" only because it seems they are starting to disappear.  was hoping 16" might be a better choice for long term?

 

Sounds Like you have made your mind up already! :P

 

Metric tires as mentioned before are way more expensive (perhaps not a problem for you?)

 

the Pro comp wheel is cheap but effective and can easily be beaten back into shape with a hammer... they are available in both 15" & 16"


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To be clear they have 5" backspacing. I had MRW make them for me. Which I think stockton wheel makes the centers for them. I wanted flat centers. The only problem I think you will really have is a loss of turning circle. They will contact your radius arms sooner. I believe the steering swivel housings are the same or close enough. Disco and defender are for sure the same. I just had to order a right hand drive one for a higher steer setup project. Same part number. The tire in above pictured is a 285/75/16. I run 305/70/16's right now on my series. Here is a picture of the series with 305/70/16's.

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One thing to consider is that it is very difficult to find a tire that is Load Range E and fits on a 15" wheel. Comparing my tires and Graeme's, he didn't have a lot of the sidewall thickness I did.
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Load range E is recommended but not required. If you run a 10 ply tire it won't flex as much at the same air pressure which might make things a little trickier when airing down.

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In running MRW 15x10 with 4.5" back space

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Load range E is recommended but not required. If you run a 10 ply tire it won't flex as much at the same air pressure which might make things a little trickier when airing down.

Is rhe 10ply good or bad? Does that mean you just run them lower than a C rated tire or that they just wont flex enough period?

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this was an interesting thread about backspacing vs/ turning angle.  granted its on a defender but still:

 

http://www.defenders...tion-23016.html

 

one of my biggest questions is what backspacing assuming i want to be able to turn decently, run a 16x8, and ideally be able to stuff a 35x12.5 somewhat into the fender.. so i don't want the wheels to stick way out...  is there even such a compromise?


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Nick I had Stockton wheel make me some 15x8 wheels a while back using old Series centre's  and I went with 4 1/2 backspacing... still had to adjust the stops on the hubs a bit but was running a 34" tyre.

 

I am considering those Cooper STT pro tyres in a 35/12.5/15...... so really right now other than Interco and Pit Bull   there is only 3 good brands in a 15"  BFG MT2's/Good Year MTR & Cooper STT Pro

 

Toyo don't offer the Open Country MT in a  35/12.5/15

 

You could pull a Colin and run 35"s on a 8" rim and still run wheel spacers :rolleyes:


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Nick I had Stockton wheel make me some 15x8 wheels a while back using old Series centre's  and I went with 4 1/2 backspacing... still had to adjust the stops on the hubs a bit but was running a 34" tyre.

 

I am considering those Cooper STT pro tyres in a 35/12.5/15...... so really right now other than Interco and Pit Bull   there is only 3 good brands in a 15"  BFG MT2's/Good Year MTR & Cooper STT Pro

 

Toyo don't offer the Open Country MT in a  35/12.5/15

 

You could pull a Colin and run 35"s on a 8" rim and still run wheel spacers :rolleyes:

 

i want to go 16's for tire choices. i do plan on calling them to see how much they would charge to build some wheels.  what's wrong with running a 35" on an 8" rim?


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Just for kicks I looked up the specs for the BFG KM2.   315/75-16 comes in at 34.8" and recommended wheel size is 8-10"

 

35x12.50x15 is probably the cheapest.  Recommended wheel size is 8.5-11"

 

No 35x12.50 in 16, but they do have it in 17" - at about $150 more per tire. (??)

 

Cooper is the same for the STT Pro.


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I have a set of old cool Jackman 15x7" wheels I took off a 2 door then sold to Dan and now have them back...  I am going to attempt to mount 35x12.5/15 tires on them.... we shall see if they stay on aired down to 15psi on the trail..

 

Otherwise I will be also having Stockton wheel make me a set... 10 years ago it was $450 for 4 wheels.

 

the 15"  Cooper STT pro's are only 34.5" tall...

 

I really like the toughness of the Toyo MT but as mentioned are only offered in a metric size.

 

Will probably go KM2 or MTR


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