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I know my rig is heavy but it ain't that heavy.

 

Lowering the truck off 4 jack stands today one of the 6-ton Harbor Freight stands collapsed and dropped it to the ground.  No harm as I had all the wheels on and it only fell of the rears since I had the front on the jack (with spreader bar, so lifting from both frame rails).  I did have the stands extended pretty much all the way so I could get under it as much as possible with the pressure washer but still, this shouldn't happen.

 

I've never had this happen in lord knows how many years of wrenching on cars.  Chalk one up to China, Inc. 

 

Maybe I'll have to buy a set of 12 tons next.

 

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Glad you were not wrenching under the truck! I try to stay away from anything made in China, specially if it's safety related. P-Fab should build some over-engineered jack stands for NCLR members


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wow   good to know.  lucky to be injury free



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I bought those exact ones as well. I figured even cheap chinese crap should be able to handle HALF what it is rated for...



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Lol.... I could build these..... Not sure if you want to pick mine up and move them around though.

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I know my rig is heavy but it ain't that heavy.

 

Lowering the truck off 4 jack stands today one of the 6-ton Harbor Freight stands collapsed and dropped it to the ground.  No harm as I had all the wheels on and it only fell of the rears since I had the front on the jack (with spreader bar, so lifting from both frame rails).  I did have the stands extended pretty much all the way so I could get under it as much as possible with the pressure washer but still, this shouldn't happen.

 

I've never had this happen in lord knows how many years of wrenching on cars.  Chalk one up to China, Inc. 

 

Maybe I'll have to buy a set of 12 tons next.

 

IMG_20160515_175732913_zps6fnk01la.jpg

 

IMG_20160515_175744522_zps0wjloh3y.jpg

 

Don

That is very scary.  You should really take the time to send these pictures to Harbor Freight (I think that is their brand, isn't it?).  If you don't get a call from a Director of the Company, then I would take it further.  Sometimes easier to just put it down to experience, but you could save someone's life by reporting this.

 

Graeme


Edited by GraemeWare, 16 May 2016 - 07:28 AM.

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I too have these exact ones.... 


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I sent an email off to Harbor Freight through their website.   I didn't ask for anything and made it clear I was just trying to inform them of a potential safety issue.  I did ask that they contact me via email, so it will be interesting to see what sort of response I get. 


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Also have the same ones in 3ton rating. I stayed away from HF jack stands for YEARS but heard person after person praise the stands for being just as well made as others out there. I finally bought some about a year ago. That's exactly the kind of fear that kept me from buying them....

 

My money is on HF blaming it on misuse in some way.

 

Glad you're OK Don.


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My money is on HF blaming it on misuse in some way.

 

 

Chad,

 

Have you seen how over-weight his truck is?  All that extra metal .... must weigh much more than 6 tons.

 

Graeme


Graeme Ware -- San Carlos, CA

1990 Range Rover Classic - LT230 Transfer box, Warn winch, 2" lift, 235/85-16 Dunlop MUD Rovers, "Blue Submarine"
1996 Discovery 1 (R380 Manual Transmission, Ashcroft under-drive, RoverWare rear bumper, 33x12.5-15 BFG ATs) -- we call her "Katrina" -- Fordyce 7.5 mile survivor
1999 Discovery 2 (D1 CDL Linkage, 265/75-16 BFG A/T KO, RoverWare front and rear bumper)
1993 Jaguar XJS convertible; 1971 Triumph GT6; 1959 Morris Minor convertible
other assorted British pot metal ...


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I figure HF is fine for low tolerance stuff like this.  I mean, it's a big piece of steel, how hard can it be right?  I don''t buy power tools or anything precision from them but I've bought jacks, stands, a gantry crane (that could be scary if it failed), press, etc and not had any real problems.  You go in knowing it's not top quality stuff but in general as long as you're aware of what it is it's fine.  I also have one of their 44" cabinets and plan to add another as they seem to be by far the best bang for the buck.

 

Like I said, I was lowering the truck from the front.  It had been sitting on 4 of these stands.  The two at the rear would have seen some side loading as the front came down and that combined with having the stand at full extension likely caused the failure.  it looks like the weld where the pyramid attaches to the ratchet/collar failed.  Done correctly, the weld should have been every bit as strong as the base metal, yet you can see it clearly tore free at the joint.

 

Will I buy from them again?  Probably - what are the alternatives?  Pretty much everything else will also be Chinese I'm sure - parts store or hardware store stuff isn't likely to be any better than HF.  Sears/Craftsman once upon a time was a good alternative but they've gone to crap in the last 15 years or so as well.  Other than that you're looking at spending big money on truck brand stuff assuming you can find it at all.


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Chad,

 

Have you seen how over-weight his truck is?  All that extra metal .... must weigh much more than 6 tons.

 

Graeme

I dunno about that....6 tons is roughly 60,000lbs, isn't it? 

 

http://truckyeah.jal...e-sh-1749930189

 

LMAO.


Edited by E36 Phantom, 16 May 2016 - 09:38 AM.

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I dunno about that....6 tons is roughly 60,000lbs, isn't it? 

 

http://truckyeah.jal...e-sh-1749930189

 

LMAO.

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Graeme Ware -- San Carlos, CA

1990 Range Rover Classic - LT230 Transfer box, Warn winch, 2" lift, 235/85-16 Dunlop MUD Rovers, "Blue Submarine"
1996 Discovery 1 (R380 Manual Transmission, Ashcroft under-drive, RoverWare rear bumper, 33x12.5-15 BFG ATs) -- we call her "Katrina" -- Fordyce 7.5 mile survivor
1999 Discovery 2 (D1 CDL Linkage, 265/75-16 BFG A/T KO, RoverWare front and rear bumper)
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I dunno about that....6 tons is roughly 60,000lbs, isn't it? 

 

http://truckyeah.jal...e-sh-1749930189

 

LMAO.

I was about to correct you until I followed the link.  I see what you did there.


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BTW, I've been to Paoli, IN.  Probably even driven over that bridge though i don't remember it specifically.  YeeHaw- Southern Indiana for the win!


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Damn, glad you are not underneath it working.

 

I always have the scare of these jacks. I have the Craftsman 3 ton but i dont trust them, so i leave the jack and also put the tires undearneath the truck. If incase something goes south hopefully will be out with injuries than dead  :o .

 

Scary stuff. That is why i say 'Don get that place and have the lifts ready so that we all can come and wrench in safety' :P


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Scary stuff. That is why i say 'Don get that place and have the lifts ready so that we all can come and wrench in safety' :P

Hear, hear!!!


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My buddy owns a Jeep fabrication shop.
Every once in a while I take my LR3 in to use one of his lifts.
The whole building groans as it tries to lift it.

It weighs more than my long bed, crew cab, V10, F350.


Don, do you remember what my LR3 did to my stock jack up on Signal Hill?
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I remember.

 

As for the shop, met with my contractor again last night.  While I had hopes of breaking ground this month that's faded into next month.  Slowly pushing the boulder up the hill...

 

Maybe I should bump my plans from a 9000 lb to a 10,000 lb lift.


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I use the Harbor freight stands as well but never had this happen. But I make a habit of leaving my floor jack and jack stands as a combo underneath. The tire method like Anudeep mentioned would also be used if I remove a tire. I'm not gentle when there's a bolt that's sleeping in its home and doesn't want to wake up and play.

So yes there always danger. Even when your carful. The best thing to do is never do it alone. Have someone close by that can check up on you if possible. And expect the unexpected.
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