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Last week the P38 I bought for my wife had an unfortunate incident with one of our wild four legged neighbors. More unfortunate for the deer than for the RR but I digress. Damage was sustained to the passenger side of the front bumper and below. On a p38 the front bumper is all one piece from the top of the plastic bumper cap down to the lowest visible point. This includes the bumper reinforcement behind the plastic as the plastic is glued on.

The way I see it I have two basic options. Return it to stock or put something "else" on it. Before you ask, no I don't have collision insurance because what's the point on a vehicle of its value. I had the body shop who is repairing the rear end quote the repair to the front and they wanted just over $2,000 for a new bumper and a little paint. Humm... That's a lot of $ for a stock bumper. A used model from British Recyclers is significantly less expensive but none are available in my particular color. An off road winch bumper is available for this vehicle for under $1,000. BUT, this is the wife's daily driver and it's not likely going to see any serious off-roading and won't likely get any other upgrades for off road travel. And $1,000 is still a lot of $.

So the question is, what would you do? And more importantly, what should I do?

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I know it's more fun to upgrade it, but if you have no plans on ever wheeling it, it really doesn't make sense. I'd get a bumper from BR and just respray it.

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I had the fortune of owning a D2 that was given an ARB bumper prior to my ownership. It was the wifes DD as well, and never saw trails. I thought about taking the bumper off, but when the full size Toyota decided to ge head to head with herat 20mph, we drove it to the shop. Tbe Toyota lost everything to the radiator.

Deer bounce better off armour. I would armour away.

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Yeah, I was just thinking if you'd had that ARB on the front BEFORE the deer showed up this probably wouldn't be an issue.  I don't think super-highly of ARB for crawling, but they are pretty much built to protect from animal strikes.  The question is cost of putting a used stocker on vs the ARB?  And of course what the wife might think of it...I guess that matters too.  :)


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Wheres ROB G at ????

 

Maybe he has a spare off road bumper put aside, I know he tends to hoard P38 goodies 

 

Same with Teds :)


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Yeah....Ted would be the man to ask!


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Yeah, I was just thinking if you'd had that ARB on the front BEFORE the deer showed up this probably wouldn't be an issue.  I don't think super-highly of ARB for crawling, but they are pretty much built to protect from animal strikes.  The question is cost of putting a used stocker on vs the ARB?  And of course what the wife might think of it...I guess that matters too.  :)


My ARB bumper saved the LR3 from the scrapyard when I hit a deer three years ago.

Mind you that I did need a new ARB bumper from the damage that I received from said deer.

It only did $17,000 worth of damage to the truck.

So the $500 or $600 ARB bumper was definitely worth having?
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My ARB bumper saved the LR3 from the scrapyard when I hit a deer three years ago.

Mind you that I did need a new ARB bumper from the damage that I received from said deer.

It only did $17,000 worth of damage to the truck.

So the $500 or $600 ARB bumper was definitely worth having?

 

Not sure...but did that $500 or $600 ARB bumper mean the $17k of damage may have been more and caused greater injuries?  

 

In our case, it was the difference between tow/incapacitated and drive home.


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Ok then. Who has some p38 parts they want to unload?

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Oddly, I saw one sitting at a Starbucks the other day with Mickey Thompsons and coils.  

 

This is of no use here, I just thought I'd mention it for no specific reason other than we're discussing P38s.


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Last week the P38 I bought for my wife had an unfortunate incident with one of our wild four legged neighbors. More unfortunate for the deer than for the RR but I digress. Damage was sustained to the passenger side of the front bumper and below. On a p38 the front bumper is all one piece from the top of the plastic bumper cap down to the lowest visible point. This includes the bumper reinforcement behind the plastic as the plastic is glued on.

The way I see it I have two basic options. Return it to stock or put something "else" on it. Before you ask, no I don't have collision insurance because what's the point on a vehicle of its value. I had the body shop who is repairing the rear end quote the repair to the front and they wanted just over $2,000 for a new bumper and a little paint. Humm... That's a lot of $ for a stock bumper. A used model from British Recyclers is significantly less expensive but none are available in my particular color. An off road winch bumper is available for this vehicle for under $1,000. BUT, this is the wife's daily driver and it's not likely going to see any serious off-roading and won't likely get any other upgrades for off road travel. And $1,000 is still a lot of $.

So the question is, what would you do? And more importantly, what should I do?

Offroad winch bumper. Especially if she keeps the car until it dies. Then you can easily sell it off as a used bumper to someone.


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Wheres ROB G at ????

 

Maybe he has a spare off road bumper put aside, I know he tends to hoard P38 goodies 

 

Same with Teds :)

 

I am still here, on the outer edge - Build a new one from scratch, its pretty straight forward and you can have something one-off not store purchased. There are a number of companies that sell "part kits" that you adapt and weld, its got all the parts you would need.

 

I recently sold my P38 to a guy in Idaho, that had a nice bumper with winch.

 

Hey Mr. Fuller - How the Dickens are you???


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I recently sold my P38 to a guy in Idaho, that had a nice bumper with winch.


Bubbles is gone??
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Bubbles is gone??

 

?!?


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