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Well- after getting my front runner drawer system installed, I realized how much of a PITA it will be to have to get to the spare out. It is also a convenient excuse to finally get that tire swing out... I've always wanted a bumper w/ a swing out tire carrier, but the idea of sensor non-compatibility annoys me a lot for some reason (even though camera functionality is probably more important and I can disable it with ID tool).

 

Right now it seems like I have three options:

  • Front Runner Tire Swing out
  • Voyager Tire Swing out
  • Custom Fab

 

Currently, I am most interested in the voyager setup as it seems to be the least obstructive as it relates to sensors and cameras, etc (but not guaranteed). Does anyone in the club have this swing out or have seen it in person?


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So.... I am talking to Trail Tailor (who just joined the forum and is moving his shop from WY to CA) about a swingout for the Sport that is compatible with stock rear bumper. It wouldn't surprise me if they are the same/very similar mounting. I'll let him know you might be interested in the same.

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Well- after getting my front runner drawer system installed, I realized how much of a PITA it will be to have to get to the spare out. It is also a convenient excuse to finally get that tire swing out... I've always wanted a bumper w/ a swing out tire carrier, but the idea of sensor non-compatibility annoys me a lot for some reason (even though camera functionality is probably more important and I can disable it with ID tool).

Right now it seems like I have three options:

  • Front Runner Tire Swing out
  • Voyager Tire Swing out
  • Custom Fab

Currently, I am most interested in the voyager setup as it seems to be the least obstructive as it relates to sensors and cameras, etc (but not guaranteed). Does anyone in the club have this swing out or have seen it in person?
David W had the Voyager swing out and his comment was it rattled too much.

A couple people have the kaymar bumpers with swings and like them. I've also talked to a few people who have tactical Rovers and were also happy.

Tactical Rovers is probably who I would go with for a whole bumper.

I'd also be interested in just a swing but the front runner one is over a 1k shipped...seems a bit excessive.

Maybe there is a way to build one with a fabricator and then do as a template...heck could even sell them. Seems like there is margin there...

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Thanks for the replies thus far- custom fab could be the way to go here. A full Kaymar/tactical bumper would be cool, but i'm really trying to shave weight here and I don't really push the LR4 enough to need a steel bumper (probably famous last words). Also, it seems like each one of those solutions comes with its own pro/cons.

 

I really like the look of this guy's swing out, (especially regarding location, height, etc.). That said, a better latch mechanism would be preferred.

 

http://forum.expedit...pose-duty/page9


Edited by TD1, 06 September 2017 - 04:39 PM.

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Thanks for the replies thus far- custom fab could be the way to go here. A full Kaymar/tactical bumper would be cool, but i'm really trying to shave weight here and I don't really push the LR4 enough to need a steel bumper (probably famous last words). Also, it seems like each one of those solutions comes with its own pro/cons.

I really like the look of this guy's swing out, (especially regarding location, height, etc.). That said, a better latch mechanism would be preferred.

http://forum.expedit...pose-duty/page9

Decent setup, the whole seems a little bigger than necessary where the spindle is. But seems like if you can mass produce for less than $500 there's a market for them.

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Once I get my LR3, I will offer full bumpers and also an "add an arm" version for guys that want to keep the stock bumper cover. Probably offer in a DIY kit and full assembled.

 

Have a client in Reno with a LR4 that will be getting full custom armor and rack. Just need to get there and get some time in.

 

I have one of the moderators from LRF.com that wants one as well.

 

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Edited by Trail Tailor, 06 September 2017 - 09:27 PM.

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Tactical rovers ones are excellent. Great plate thickness for its weight. Fitment is good, some take a bit of trimming around the hitch area.  The swingout pivot is well thought out. 


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Once I get my LR3, I will offer full bumpers and also an "add an arm" version for guys that want to keep the stock bumper cover. Probably offer in a DIY kit and full assembled.

 

Have a client in Reno with a LR4 that will be getting full custom armor and rack. Just need to get there and get some time in.

 

I have one of the moderators from LRF.com that wants one as well.

 

Jason

 

I am definitely in no rush, so will be curious to see what becomes of this. Thanks


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this seems an interesting band-aid solution too. not sure how good it is, but seems ok if you're not getting into too serious stuff.

 

https://adventure-re...chgate-classic/


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The Hitchgate could be a workable option on the earlier Rovers that had fixed hitches. For the LR3 and beyond with the stupid removable things, I don't see it as a viable option: 

  1. The removable hitch receivers absolutely kill your departure angles (cut roughly in half), leading to #2:
  2. They are too fragile, and if you go dragging one across rocks you're just asking to damage the lock or the pin or start hairline fractures in the cast metal itself, leading to #3:
  3. They are expensive as hell to replace, and if driving with one showing even the slightest hint of damage is dangerous given the potential impact of losing a trailer or even just losing the Hitchgate as you're going down the road. Even if it doesn't hurt you, the liability there is extraordinary. 

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I haven't looked closely at it, but typically the fitment to a receiver hitch is pretty loose.  Example - every try a hitch mount bicycle carrier?  Notice how much it wobbles around?  Now hang a couple hundred pounds back there and see how much it wobbles...

 

You can use pinch bolts and other solutions to try to combat this but I've never seen a hitch-mounted-anything that was really secure.

 

While I doubt it would fall off, it would annoy the heck out of me to see it wobbling around back there.


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yes these are all fair points.


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The Wilco arms are a pretty decent product for what they are designed for, but would classify them for offroad use. I've seen several on rigs where guys don't have the cash for a built bumper. As stated above they do rattle and move around quite a bit. So, in all reality, the longevity may be reduced, especially if used offroad on a normal basis.

 

I build a style of receiver into some of my ladders and swing arms and use a 1/2" set bolt to reduce movement in the attachments. It helps greatly, but offroad the attachments still move slightly.

 

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I've read some blog reviews on them and seems like they do well for over landing where the tire is accessible but you are not permanently living with the tire rack.

Did seem like they didn't do anything beyond fire roads with them...

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The Wilco arms are a pretty decent product for what they are designed for, but would classify them for offroad use. I've seen several on rigs where guys don't have the cash for a built bumper. As stated above they do rattle and move around quite a bit. So, in all reality, the longevity may be reduced, especially if used offroad on a normal basis.

 

I build a style of receiver into some of my ladders and swing arms and use a 1/2" set bolt to reduce movement in the attachments. It helps greatly, but offroad the attachments still move slightly.

 

J

 

 

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I really like your idea of using a receiver in the build to allow swapping different carriers - jerry cans (1, 2, 3), tire, cooler, etc.  And using pinch bolts certainly helps reduce the sway.  Looking forward to seeing some of your builds when you get established out here.


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The Wilco arms are a pretty decent product for what they are designed for, but would classify them for offroad use. I've seen several on rigs where guys don't have the cash for a built bumper. As stated above they do rattle and move around quite a bit. So, in all reality, the longevity may be reduced, especially if used offroad on a normal basis.

I build a style of receiver into some of my ladders and swing arms and use a 1/2" set bolt to reduce movement in the attachments. It helps greatly, but offroad the attachments still move slightly.


That is a really cool idea.... Definitely want to incorporate that into the one on mine. I'd love to be able to swap out add-ons for different uses and have them off completely for daily driving.

Also, this is the setup our bike carrier uses. The step on the bolt fits through the receiver hitch opening but not the bike carrier, acting like a set bolt and hitch pin at the same time. Not sure how movement compares to the hitch pin + set bolt arrangement, but the carrier stays pretty solid.

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I really like your idea of using a receiver in the build to allow swapping different carriers - jerry cans (1, 2, 3), tire, cooler, etc.  And using pinch bolts certainly helps reduce the sway.  Looking forward to seeing some of your builds when you get established out here.

 

 

That is a really cool idea.... Definitely want to incorporate that into the one on mine. I'd love to be able to swap out add-ons for different uses and have them off completely for daily driving.

Also, this is the setup our bike carrier uses. The step on the bolt fits through the receiver hitch opening but not the bike carrier, acting like a set bolt and hitch pin at the same time. Not sure how movement compares to the hitch pin + set bolt arrangement, but the carrier stays pretty solid.

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I've built all kinds of attachments for the guys. BBQ,snowblower platforms, 4 can/tool boxes,  bike repair mount, ladder w/ 2 receivers, swing away bike carrier, etc..

 

I have a rear bumper that the swing arms are completely removable. No spindles sticking out of the bumper, just a clean appearance.  I like building the stuff someone dreams up, but everyone says it can't be built....

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...chain saw scabbard

 

Just a Harlen cover than I attached to a ladder one time. I've had a few requests but nothing to make a TT offering on a regular basis.

 

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There are actually some off-the-rack offerings that could likely be adapted to fit a regular 2" receiver if I were serious.  I do need a place to carry the saw from time to time but I'm not going to be adding any new bumpers on my rigs as they're already built.  Just thoughts for the future. 


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